Regarding Forged Letters and Printing Concerns
Regarding Forged Letters and Printing Concerns
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- 29th June 1847 (Creation)
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Mess Perkins Bacon & Vetch
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Royal Philatelic Society London
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The last Copy Shulkum vent with
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Jhelums
Ansiver our purpose togugram from very well-
Weare, Bentlemen,
verzrespectfully
Chayles Fotfic rez
Consul Benerat
Sweden Morway
Gentlemens
/
Your humbledere
88809
Ho leg. Heef Street
29th June 18477
Received p
the have carefully considered
the Copies of the letters of the 17th Jade March las
befamined the two 20). Notes aput by the Commi
Banks & Syoruz, and think the simplest Cours
istorevert to the letters first Othen the Nderation
The Bank have been informed
by a Printer in Sydney (whoisnotmanned)
Rehad worked for ud many years in London
that he beleived the Forgeries were thrown off fran
a semmine Plate at attress in our Office, & by a sprinte
employ, because the resemblance is soclas
emplay
to that of the real trote that a Printer might on
himself with Paper #tatre impressions for himmen
our premises.
mour en
ou our
They also assume that a mante
thename Michards has a Sons in our
employm
throust whom the forseries might have bundan
in our Office. Auf the firth praund intelligention
States that " Whens lume the wonder of the trade for
thelast 20 years that nothing of the kind has se
Aufore.
Amay
be well to famine there
must contradict the statement at the first
supposed facts as they arise. Inthefzetéplace un
Cannot
Printer had been many years in our employ
your
forthe best of all reatores the the falsehood alebeleive
vist that noname beny
we cannot expose
me aur
given
ittobe, but we have examined our booters Thay
be
rolls as far back as 1833 deftine permitted
would have some further and no person Other
name of Richards has ever benz im aux employ
either as a thunter or any other Capacity from
tutday tothis. Next, a crear resemblance toons
Protes will not do, for if the real plates were used
the forgery must be the same not a near resem
Blauel. Asame. it tortuiter provide hinsey
with Sfice, weh it ſonges, print
Spockret it without being discovered when he
Hands side by side with dis surrounded by alarge
Number Bother pruders Astries more
al charada
who have as is the case with alarge proportions
of them been ju our employment 20 de 25 garest
who know that if they prefferly conduct. themes,
they
are there for life. This printer also very modestly
asserts that for Doyears all in the trade have under-
Good more four busings than we do, allfrough
he confesses Matit look I years, to prove their
superior knowledge? The bruth is Mature frame
freater securities than any one else in the Bade
the prepare the stedt, Euprave Mint; the Plates, B
funerally furnish the Paper also. They are kept when
not in use locked up in abault in a room allog
apart from the Printers, in charge Gapurson of the
Britiſh integrity who has had that charge for Ryu,
The number of thinters in each of their vows
too large to allow of such fraud if any one withd
is
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to practice it. A hedger is kept BallBankihren Hellote to 8505, is printed uszon a Milliſahen
V printed as regular as abßanters Ledger of lette
Wills & the Notes so through seven Countings
The mandreturen all his Paper either
asgood or spoilt beforeby has any
alt, and
men who true hay the best wages the
more work
M
Pfirsiste
employ are sure of a
permanenzy
there is prejudicemment team
the possibility offrand Othe disposition life
it out of the question) todo wrong formall
our experience we lever knew knough des
fours foyed on issued to procure as much
ногие
but when we examine the letters furthere thejen
of the impressions being taken from the States
abour Nothblishyung becomes stiff morcenter
All Un evidence in the letters goes
are insome measure an
our
than that the forgeries
Neath different from the real protes, The Bank
have sent us two notes which they say are quit
different from each other notte in Engraving.
later marke but this is altogether inconsitung
with the notion that they proceeded from
Office. The letters describe one note to be with a
Watermark perfectly similar to that belonging
tothe Baute the other without any, this ajan
is perfectly inconsistent with the idea of their bang
printed at our Office. All the above me have wor
before making any examination of the Protes
our Minds it is perfectly conclusive that the pos
never umanated from our place. Althougton
Chad
it been otherwise it would have bem verzumper
for us to know it. The now after having
The two notes beg to give
bgto
нема
opinion
мечу
exam
are
has
lower
The
uulibur any that we use, thas attamfud Pvery
unlike
confused watermarke notaball libre
library.
and the Note 8400 is printed upon a thinner
but yeale Vaper somewhat resembly yours
inthetottering & the bandytreevalermarte
though event here ibis defective, buty
young
a flattern composed of coce fine taught hing
outside the letters to within a quarter Banquet
of the edge of the note where it belogues athiels
white looking pattern; byhall thell
wanting
in theeffſhley. Andritte Gutre of the coming
part of the Note in the space about between
the M&R in Commercial abrauch of the
bandyfze Pattern is altogether omitted.
bother
Then as to the engraving, of H-8503-
Britaning
Brittannia, the Lion, & the Auchor
have lights "thades ease, elegance, I force in the
real Hote but not in this, the figure of Commerce
is bad, but so wear that there is little which
Can be deciphered about it. The Beettive is not
acourt busty
a correct copy of the Original but the word
foyed, has covered the Markes buy which to
Compare it. The thump or small writing
an eighth of aurich shorter in this trote then
in the real one, it is somewhat smaller every way
except in Paper, and the Oval with the wordt
ONE being the only piece four Lathe workin
the whole hoty is not at all like the spatterns withe
real Note. The signatures are moré,
Properly pair.
province but we consider all but one of thing
engraved on the state. The H 8503 are
had in our
as we never
were
such figures
Office, Iwe know thatit
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was not mumbered by my
The marks in the
Svi,
comade a comma on the Note sent butnote of
isa
one
inours indeed if we had time we co
Could finis
auf differences in every part of the Notes ph
tolerable first sight resemblance
The Other Note 440 8400 is in some respects beth
and is from another palate Be the Same
attored, but it has the main defects which
mehance before mentioned. The doubt not
they were both prepared from a printed real
Note as a guide Deuspect they were producenty
the Electrotype or Daguerreotype process. Miche
for some time, watched thud fears these
lights and have a plan secured by Patent
We beleive will perfectly defeat them all, and
only impose apiery
small extra expense in
preparing the Ubytes probably note tha
one pound a thousand. The are e preparing a
new
Hotel Hackstreet
187 July 1847.
In addition to our letter of the 20th
utte weling to say that the two drawings therein
byzont
Engram naging proceeded with air
our.
rapidle
a
as
as possible, but we cannot fine zou desplientes
of the drawings totend to Sweden, because
myrch time is consumed inpreparing thing
they have to be done byour best reprancer who
prepares all the work for others tosson with
Rehwould cause a delay for 10 or 12 days in
excenting Your Order so that it would prevent
being ready at the time promised buchas
soon as one plate is done you thall have
proof to send & theother denomination
they are ready
Arguing for our approval I have orderit in chartes Tottie Roz
Vaper to be made Fif the Bauke withdrawn Consul emeral
20000 notes, entirely in consequence Pure Norway Sweden
Preplace them fy the new ones we thallment
no charge for thun, except as above. His now
evident that although all good work has a corday N
Ayroynt of Security we must depend more ite
the Lathe work than on any Dor 3 others with
Regretting the appearance of this
ш
fizzerz
on the Baubis, qu
Acount the aue, Bullemens,
Mest Smith Edder Co
certain
En zuurs, Honour our
very respectfull
Your humble Herber
B. Use thould be glad tolearns the reamne of the Christer
We
who says he worked so many plans forces.
Dear Sir,
theare, fir
We respectfully
preplescrits
Hobe Fleet Wreet.
July 1817.
We have carefully considered the
expense of preparing the Paper you enuntioned
lous yesterday viz?
The Value of £500 of White Bank Note Haper
If the best quality for Peso apen
1925
M
ſt
&
£100.
Se
10 n
and by a very close calculation
we will engage to supply then we the following
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Summary: The letter discusses the examination of forged letters and notes related to the trade, mentioning suspicions about forgery originating from a printing plate in their office and addressing the integrity of their printers and employees.
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To: Gentlemen
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From: Chayles Fotfic, Consul Benerat, Sweden Morway
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Date: 29th June 1847
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