Inquiry on Branches and Fraud Concerns
Inquiry on Branches and Fraud Concerns
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Reference code
GB RPSL PB-CORRESP-LB-1011002-101102-0016
Publication status
Draft
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Item
Date(s)
- May 1828 (Creation)
Context area
Name of creator
Mess Perkins Bacon & Vetch
Repository
Royal Philatelic Society London
Content and structure area
Scope and content
2
Fr. B. Smith Eg
N
(National Bauts of Preland)
Sir,
Holy Reet Street
Mhe Joby 1828
We have in vain fostred for your
zerinted list from which we gathered the places whe
Branches of your Banks wereestablished, and therefor
as Dublin is not strictly a Branch Must a place whe
you issue nous are cannot be sure thative sentals
Four Greular Greſpecting the fraud committed atte
time through the Medium the India Proofs Houdtrote
to that place. We are the more doubtful on this point te
on Coryour a
lending to your office this afterzoon for a Circular
Containing
Lith A Branches – Dublin is placed entere
itself the word Branches is printed, with the ton
alphabetically arranged under it –
arranged under it – As it would there
be quite possible Veut our Cech who is confident he sen
Letters to every one of your Branches, asprinted in the
List then given
might either not have hund Kun
A Dublin before him or if he had might notham conside
it a Branch – me thall not demur to refunding the t
so carelessly paid away in Dublin, but me shattlegro
dend à
lake log
from thund
Hain a copy of our Aranlar boyour office there #thurst
bu
-
us.
M
and
as we have done from the other offices
epente fre saying such spurious prices of Kroin Vasur
inspressions
We are six
very respectfully
Jau
four humble seron
PBMC
MB. We have enclosed a Copy of the Arentar which un
forwarded to the different. Branches – – (see ther side)
SIR,
69, FLEET STREET,
-Dec 31, 1940.
Feby 25th 1843
WITHIN the two days last past, a Forgery of One Note from several of the Plates,
which we have engraved for our Customers, has made its appearance, and as it is possible there
may be others which have not yet come to light, we feel it our duty to notify you of the same, so
that should it prove more extensive than we anticipate, you may be guarded against it.
From the first knowledge of the use of India paper to this time, it has been customary
for Engravers to take Proofs from their Plates upon India paper with Colombier backs, and to
send such Proofs to Bankers in the Country, or their known Agents in London, when applied
for, (in order to change their plates), but we have for many years counted the Specimens so
sent, and always requested their return to us again.
In the present instance we have seen Thirteen Forgeries, and they are all impressions taken
by us from the original plates, and upon India paper, and no two are from the same plate; it is there-
fore clear that the party, whoever he may be, has got possession of a set of specimens sent to some
Banker, and they must have gone from our office a long time ago, as two of the plates are
of Banks which have ceased business many years. Great ingenuity must have been practised,
as the India proofs have been peeled from the Colombier paper, and then, by a very pure gum
attached to a very thin paper, the operation effecting the double purpose of giving some con-
sistence to the fragile India paper, and of enabling it to bear writing. A moment's reflection
will show that they must have gotten into the hands of the rogue in the manner we state,
and not from any of our men; because no one, or two, or three men could have obtained pos-
session of all the different impressions we have seen; they must have known that two, were of
Banks which never existed, some were without any numbers whatever, and several with written
numbers, while the real Notes have the numbers printed by machinery; and besides, were our men
disposed to be rogues, which we believe they are not, they would be more likely to attempt the
experiment with common or Bank Note paper, than India.
Our precautions have been such, that during a period of twenty years, in which we have
printed scores of millions of Notes, no one impression has ever got into circulation from our plates
upon note paper, or indeed any other but the India; we exceedingly regret, although we could
not possibly have anticipated, this new species of fraud, and have now taken measures to prevent
any impression being pulled from any plate of ours, new or old, which in any way involves any
money transactions, but those with the word specimen conspicuously stamped upon them in two
vital parts, or such as are pulled for our customers in the way of business. A person is in
custody, but until his examination it cannot be known whether he is a tool of, or the real, culprit.
We trust we shall be excused for addressing you in the form of a circular; but this
information, to be of use, should be promptly conveyed, and it would have taken many days
to write to all our Friends and Customers.
We are, Sir,
Very respectfully and faithfully,
Your most obedient Servants,
To the Agent of the (Sigmund) Verkins Bacon's Betch
National Baube of Ireland
Dublin.
WB. We think a Copy of the above was sent loyan in
andz 1944 as well as to the Branches
wetry
as me arc
not certain me
in Ireland but
ward on
to forward
-
2
Fr. B. Smith Eg
N
(National Bauts of Preland)
Sir,
Holy Reet Street
Mhe Joby 1828
We have in vain fostred for your
zerinted list from which we gathered the places whe
Branches of your Banks wereestablished, and therefor
as Dublin is not strictly a Branch Must a place whe
you issue nous are cannot be sure thative sentals
Four Greular Greſpecting the fraud committed atte
time through the Medium the India Proofs Houdtrote
to that place. We are the more doubtful on this point te
on Coryour a
lending to your office this afterzoon for a Circular
Containing
Lith A Branches – Dublin is placed entere
itself the word Branches is printed, with the ton
alphabetically arranged under it –
arranged under it – As it would there
be quite possible Veut our Cech who is confident he sen
Letters to every one of your Branches, asprinted in the
List then given
might either not have hund Kun
A Dublin before him or if he had might notham conside
it a Branch – me thall not demur to refunding the t
so carelessly paid away in Dublin, but me shattlegro
dend à
lake log
from thund
Hain a copy of our Aranlar boyour office there #thurst
bu
-
us.
M
and
as we have done from the other offices
epente fre saying such spurious prices of Kroin Vasur
inspressions
We are six
very respectfully
Jau
four humble seron
PBMC
MB. We have enclosed a Copy of the Arentar which un
forwarded to the different. Branches – – (see ther side)
SIR,
69, FLEET STREET,
-Dec 31, 1940.
Feby 25th 1843
WITHIN the two days last past, a Forgery of One Note from several of the Plates,
which we have engraved for our Customers, has made its appearance, and as it is possible there
may be others which have not yet come to light, we feel it our duty to notify you of the same, so
that should it prove more extensive than we anticipate, you may be guarded against it.
From the first knowledge of the use of India paper to this time, it has been customary
for Engravers to take Proofs from their Plates upon India paper with Colombier backs, and to
send such Proofs to Bankers in the Country, or their known Agents in London, when applied
for, (in order to change their plates), but we have for many years counted the Specimens so
sent, and always requested their return to us again.
In the present instance we have seen Thirteen Forgeries, and they are all impressions taken
by us from the original plates, and upon India paper, and no two are from the same plate; it is there-
fore clear that the party, whoever he may be, has got possession of a set of specimens sent to some
Banker, and they must have gone from our office a long time ago, as two of the plates are
of Banks which have ceased business many years. Great ingenuity must have been practised,
as the India proofs have been peeled from the Colombier paper, and then, by a very pure gum
attached to a very thin paper, the operation effecting the double purpose of giving some con-
sistence to the fragile India paper, and of enabling it to bear writing. A moment's reflection
will show that they must have gotten into the hands of the rogue in the manner we state,
and not from any of our men; because no one, or two, or three men could have obtained pos-
session of all the different impressions we have seen; they must have known that two, were of
Banks which never existed, some were without any numbers whatever, and several with written
numbers, while the real Notes have the numbers printed by machinery; and besides, were our men
disposed to be rogues, which we believe they are not, they would be more likely to attempt the
experiment with common or Bank Note paper, than India.
Our precautions have been such, that during a period of twenty years, in which we have
printed scores of millions of Notes, no one impression has ever got into circulation from our plates
upon note paper, or indeed any other but the India; we exceedingly regret, although we could
not possibly have anticipated, this new species of fraud, and have now taken measures to prevent
any impression being pulled from any plate of ours, new or old, which in any way involves any
money transactions, but those with the word specimen conspicuously stamped upon them in two
vital parts, or such as are pulled for our customers in the way of business. A person is in
custody, but until his examination it cannot be known whether he is a tool of, or the real, culprit.
We trust we shall be excused for addressing you in the form of a circular; but this
information, to be of use, should be promptly conveyed, and it would have taken many days
to write to all our Friends and Customers.
We are, Sir,
Very respectfully and faithfully,
Your most obedient Servants,
To the Agent of the (Sigmund) Verkins Bacon's Betch
National Baube of Ireland
Dublin.
WB. We think a Copy of the above was sent loyan in
andz 1944 as well as to the Branches
wetry
as me arc
not certain me
in Ireland but
ward on
to forward
-
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