Discussion on Scarlet and Vermillion Colors

Discussion on Scarlet and Vermillion Colors

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  • 5th July 1840 (Creation)

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Mess Perkins Bacon & Vetch

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Royal Philatelic Society London

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375. your hands & greattoughness tends to guine indien timet geinnde Aumetness to a watermark. Attheriste de your censure forestande an Arjungent we must entice your observation as to the deste, for although que certamity have very acute, clear Straight forward business habits, une think for once quu are quite in the wrong titis the foronce more needful we should doso, because we are ready to Carry out our ensagengents. CC Han Toge way that in the corzeszenie " of the 5th 19th Feby - 15th Jane & gr July 1840 the han Always been plainly described or written superior Searlet Juk "Vit cannot be successfully maintained that Brauge is scarlet at all, neither that ection dis could be used to print a superior scarlet? Areply which should run on all fours with the above are arjun would be that bermittion itself which you so quiet favor is not scarlet, but Crimson ; and the Patterns which you gave us has no appearance to our lips If Searlet although it has of Crimson, but neithe of us eare for technicalities therefore we will dimmißßtly dianis When we first corresponded by lett as well as personally you save nono specimen ohel you required, nor did you hint at the use ofvermilly a colour, the use of which, in Copper Mate bruiting is run from its extravagant price; when you gave the specimen we did not think it would require bermillion to prom it _ the have examined the whole correspondence onli sides, except your letter of 75th June which we committe But what we find is that you write us on the 5 enclosing a requisition in Granich forms to kandate which we did Bou the 17th reby enade out the button asuperior red inter" on the DBrd hebr owne translation dated the 19. arty in which ann Ro you wrote end Beby am your по of you 376 other important matters que translate it" aluferin Scarlet Mille" bystour attention was drawen ли a difference in that respect. On the Bofundme to the you our fird Estimate in which we propose touse red dute» On the 24 Jem you write but mallino Correction four estimate. On the Zr July you write letter eneforing a slip which was handed this rugramer totwork from, in which we now see aremarts th "as the note, will be printed Fearlet ze on the 5th July, a contract is anade Higned by Both parties in which we (as we had ever done) innocently persevered as wehad done throughout in much the words fristen " in red huts". And upitit meprinted the specimens were not quare that you hnd all alouch einmungen Jums tho' never in Guur letters, & poten onething tive ofanother. I never did me charge a price for a or dreams fycling bermillion but when we came to print the specimens to send you we found that the Shades which would print well upon Banke Note Paper (untiben Common writing papers) were extremely limited therefore we sent such as under other eizenmstances we should not have done at all. We think we are bound to say This much in self defence, but we will at once falfum with your besfection Radd more vermillion to the sample the me marked Jr. B. 3. Devereally think it, every thing coun- -sidered (irrespective of Cost) the best Color Hall sent you. We thank you for our offer to pay 776.4.5 inadechank ми us 4.5 in advance on the Order now excenting for you which will be very acceptable although we Certainty Phall not make it a condition of meeting your views as to the colour. *On the subject of the run 50% $400 te you laber under great misapprehensions. We havalarge 378. 377- Stock, & dies Vifthese Plates could be made prometheus we should however full ofwork us than than the Thought asking any advance upon the low-price at which you deaul for about time been supplied, but the facts are quite otherwise. There happens to be bestone Single die on each hote which we could use withing Great dexpensive alterations, and both of the regis you ask to have exchanged for others; the Paill requires the least but quen that must have considerin worth upon it. In the former 308 Note (besides the writing which is much she came in all) there were only Six dies which though good were on our system cumple in making – whereas in the crew 588 theme are ten most of them very complicated, Refpensive In the former 100g hote there were we in doing so the Plates we propose torçabre would be Engines & plate is nothing like the inerated value of Cheap at difty Suineas, each the addition of Four Sujucas the new over the old fetates, we quish therefore though respectfully decline making them under Seventy fine Juineas each Note Def you were here, we could easily Matthey were worth it The heels of the Mote which are to be cut through but The more open the pattern the more it is expotest to forgery five containsly thinkle that already upon The 50 drawing cause are, Dearden respeelfully Cannot be improved We Henver & Weller Gez D only sig von Ми the the same rate applies as thattothe 5078 whereas in the new 1008 Thurgare Mize there very complicated beffensive. All our Lathe worl is costly from the great quantity failures before me secure a good die - but you have no adequate idea of the todent. Itime I money which are demanded to produce the combined varieties which we have united in various parts of the 1 parts of the new drawings. We are dolized forthe many Orders you have given frateful forthevery hours manner in which after you frame brought les tourn low rate, you have ever fulfilled you engagements, & for these and many other reasons Cue are disposed to work for you at the lowest proper rate, but the other 50% 100% Notes having been fapt though we believe they would never have been fiched if printed & kept in a good state as they wou have been by us – me felt it circumbent oncertie our best energies in the crew drawings to baffle the aha very us we are ше Would r Sentlemen, for a o 25th October 1848 The pattern & Colour you have deur I we can easily prodice, but the size is incon- venient in the extreme, we can only produce only produce in of that size from à Medium plate partly stopped out, a They agreat wathe of time & blanketing, and if done byfut we must charge 10/4, for the 220 impressions Rwhich we think avery high price - We have already deplined printing from a similarsizl because of the impossibility of doing it at an apparently reasontie Mate We are your d Moder is Teape (1476inches) 🙂 B

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Summary: The letter discusses the correct shade of scarlet, distinguishing it from crimson, and addresses issues related to the use of vermillion in printing specimens. It also mentions correspondence and contracts related to color specifications and pricing.

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Date: 5th July 1840

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